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Oh - that is great, so can you specify the approximate distance? Is the fencing wire zinc anodised mild steel or really stainless steel? What is the diameter of the wire? What is the V and A? It sounds pulsed, is that deliberate or is it just due to the dynamics in the situation.

Yes this is MHD, and you are seeing it form orthogonal to the plate, same as we did in HHO Vs 10Yen coin and Vs W welding rod.

I think it is important you have the W wetted, that is leading to the production of HHO on the fly, which leads to the production of clusters leading to the observed mark.

What happens when you have no water?

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I’ll update the slides with those details but in the mean time - air gap roughly 1.0 +/- 0.3mm. Wire 1.2mm dia. Zinc coated mild steel. Al adhesive tape dusted with FeTi wrapped around the cathode wire. Outer wrapping was PTFE tape.

Welder puts out a pulsed waveform 180A at up to 70V, though I didnt have the scope hooked up unfortunately.

Only one witness plate was wetted, it was the one that remained intact. PTFE would be a good source of H though for the ones that weren’t wetted. The intact plate shows the signature double indent a’la ULTRA.

Intend to measure the direct TDM of the MHD structure making these. Big enough bagel receiver fitting around the BL area, it will absolutely couple. I’ve got some interesting signal out of a lower power hv arc discharge doing exactly this. Happy to share, to get discussion flowing.

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Hi Chris, yes, PTFE is great, but it contains no H. It does have C and F, and one reason I believe it worked so well in Ohmasa Gas + Ti vs PTFE is that F is a single isotope and one of the highest spin isotopes. We saw Alpha conjugate nuclei of F in the EVO track in that experiment.

The mark is essentially identical to the one produced on the 10 Yen coin by Ohmasa Gas, - even more so the fractal, orthogonal smaller structure which had 2xO > S in "Snowballs on Cobblestones"

https://youtu.be/3h3Gk4vatS8

Top left in this shot

https://youtu.be/gux490Oywoo?t=277

Need to work on bringing the details together to enable replication attempts. All details you can think of

Brand and model of welder

Source of witness plates

Source / brand of PTFE

Pulse rate

etc.

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Sorry - I meant no H - corrected

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Hi Chris, can you confirm the disk plate material?

Can you confirm if and when you were wetting the electrode and/or the disk plate?

Bob

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Hi Bob, the disk plate is tungsten, I’ll update the linked slide with a more comprehensive set of electrode material combinations and highlight if the witness plate was wetted or not. The SS electrode is significantly more energetic. I tried capturing the TDM response on a W anode that fit into a 2-level Bagel, only captured the pre-BL signal which is just as interesting in my opinion. Will add to the slides as well.

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Thanks, that is great. I think I will make a page for this work.

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Slides look good. Will properly review tomorrow

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Caught the maker-breaker pretzel on TDM scope! - spoiler alert: it's a chaotic signal. Slides up to date.

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Awesome.

Where are you based? I'd like to take a look (SEM/EDX) at some of those targets.

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In Australia. I'll start wearing some gloves when I'm handling the next few so I don't get my grubby fingers all over them. Just let me know where to post them, I think you have my email?

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Should do.

If you can get them to California by the 28th, I can take a look at them.

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