It is difficult to draw firm conclusions at this stage. The first thing that concerns me is the geometric dimension (ratios) and symmetry of the structure: this should be very important to trigger the effect (as per Maxwell equations). But the Dave's structure does'n appear to have neither the proper and constant ratios neither a very good symmetry. So, are we observing some very incipient effect, or just an artifact? (Working with fields at these frequencies is not easy: interference are ubiquitous and very hard to spot and get rid off: they even depend on the operator position and movements). The other important thing to consider is the power input to the tor structure: no mention of that. Of course more power will imply an increased probability to trigger and observe the effect. The fact that the ferrite core seems to work better may be due to the about 1000x magnetic permeability of the material, that just dramatically increase the B field for any given input current. Finally, since the "phantom" structure should be somewhat resonant in space (i.e. it should have a self resonance frequency depending on the physical dimensions), it could be a good idea to power the tor structure with just a big current pulse: the phantom should be exited to its resonant frequency, that will be something different from the one generated by the instruments (in fact the signal generator will not even needed anymore).
Can you comment on the construction, maybe a cross-section of the bagel coil? Is the ferrous core the toroidal ring or the center of the spiral winding?
The reason behind this iron core effect is that the magnetic field produced by the coil induces a rearrangement of the spin states in the atoms of the iron so that these spins generate the angular momentum required to polarize the vacuum.
An experiment using magnetic dust could make visible the magnetic field patterns being produced by the coil and the iron.
Hey Guys. This is fantastic work, bravo Dave, you have my gratitude!! If you accept donations and they would help for this work I can probably send $50 or something. This whole ferrite core thing reminds me of two things which I can't find the reference for the first one with ease but if people want it I will try and dig them up (by search google transcripts for videos).
The first was an interview with Dan Winter where he explicitly said the red mercury in the nazi bell was due to iron.
The second was something mentioned by Walter Bosley regarding the 1800's airship mystery craft said regarding how their technology worked. There is no mention of iron, but it was indeed a powder they were adding to the fluid they dispersed on the rotating drum. I'm wondering if perhaps it was iron filings...
Did you turn off the power of the signal generator and the power amplifier? And unplug them?Is that how you discovered the electromagnetic phantom of the bagel coil?
exciting
At 1:08, note that the electric field goes to zero briefly, then comes back when he reaches for the meter. Wondering about that.
Also bizarre that his coils are a mess - I would hardly call that symmetry. And yet the phenomena appears.
Would love to see what a nearby antenna picks ups before-during-after.
Keep up the exciting work.
It is difficult to draw firm conclusions at this stage. The first thing that concerns me is the geometric dimension (ratios) and symmetry of the structure: this should be very important to trigger the effect (as per Maxwell equations). But the Dave's structure does'n appear to have neither the proper and constant ratios neither a very good symmetry. So, are we observing some very incipient effect, or just an artifact? (Working with fields at these frequencies is not easy: interference are ubiquitous and very hard to spot and get rid off: they even depend on the operator position and movements). The other important thing to consider is the power input to the tor structure: no mention of that. Of course more power will imply an increased probability to trigger and observe the effect. The fact that the ferrite core seems to work better may be due to the about 1000x magnetic permeability of the material, that just dramatically increase the B field for any given input current. Finally, since the "phantom" structure should be somewhat resonant in space (i.e. it should have a self resonance frequency depending on the physical dimensions), it could be a good idea to power the tor structure with just a big current pulse: the phantom should be exited to its resonant frequency, that will be something different from the one generated by the instruments (in fact the signal generator will not even needed anymore).
Can you comment on the construction, maybe a cross-section of the bagel coil? Is the ferrous core the toroidal ring or the center of the spiral winding?
The reason behind this iron core effect is that the magnetic field produced by the coil induces a rearrangement of the spin states in the atoms of the iron so that these spins generate the angular momentum required to polarize the vacuum.
An experiment using magnetic dust could make visible the magnetic field patterns being produced by the coil and the iron.
Perpendicular FE cored bagel test...just uploaded at https://youtu.be/f7IyqgcTABM E field remains as before.
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A POEM WRITTEN SPECIALLY FOR BOB, ABOUT BOB:
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There once was a scholar named Zhvirblis,
Who proclaimed that the Phantom's not serious:
He just couldn't perceive that magnificient weave,
The topology which makes us delirious.
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In hindsight, he realized his err,
And reprised in despair, a repair.
But he was too late, they had fled from the gate,
He wanted to reach them, but where?
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Then along came a maverick named Bob,
Who took up 'The Great Work', as a job.
He said, "It's all donuts", fundamental components,
"Even those string-vortex kebabs".
Full text of poem about BOB, for BOB is HERE: https://pastebin.com/RjDF7G6U
Hey Guys. This is fantastic work, bravo Dave, you have my gratitude!! If you accept donations and they would help for this work I can probably send $50 or something. This whole ferrite core thing reminds me of two things which I can't find the reference for the first one with ease but if people want it I will try and dig them up (by search google transcripts for videos).
The first was an interview with Dan Winter where he explicitly said the red mercury in the nazi bell was due to iron.
The second was something mentioned by Walter Bosley regarding the 1800's airship mystery craft said regarding how their technology worked. There is no mention of iron, but it was indeed a powder they were adding to the fluid they dispersed on the rotating drum. I'm wondering if perhaps it was iron filings...
https://youtu.be/SmwKh2gnzxs?t=4619 (the relevant portion regarding technology)
https://youtu.be/SmwKh2gnzxs?t=4722 (Are those phi golden ratio triangles on that spinning drum... silly me of course they are ...)
Did you turn off the power of the signal generator and the power amplifier? And unplug them?Is that how you discovered the electromagnetic phantom of the bagel coil?