This broadcast should be interesting as I chat with many scientists and actually helped an amateur friend of mine do experiments on electrons in metals with an oscilloscope to prove that electrons are actually toroidal just like the universe that recycles the matter in the universe. I just chatted with a mainstream scientist on academia on this very subject. Thanks for keeping me in the loop.
Reviewing the papers, I can sense how insight and understanding can unfold overtime in the space between our ears, yet the gnawing simplicity of what actually is, and how we harness what is -- via choices, remains "macro-nic." I just notice that so often Spin is how we take hold of any/all forms of Reality. I mix paint, for example. That you chose to do this work, and we all chose to hear you and have a look-see, greatly expands our abilities to optimize those choices. Mike Levin on "micro-agency" in cells is making more and more sense, for example. Best wishes for the next presentation, Bob!
Have just read 2 of the 3 papers. So many questions.. where is an electron during position changes? Are the Vortex Ring Fractals totally in our dimensions? Are they powered by the flow of another dimension? Or are they fluctuating in and out of quantum existence? Is half the vortex ring in another dimension? Fascinating theories in these papers and clear diagrams. It does make sense this VRF Theory. Great find, well done.
Very amazing work by Pavel Osmera! Great find. Can’t wait for the presentation.
Perhaps the deity of the 4 pairs he is referring to is Ogdoad? Earliest findings of depictions showing the “eightfold god” Go back to the 13th century bc. Interestingly this is the same time period of the image of “Egyptian King Tut-E’s signet ring on show at the Louvre”, which has been floating in my files for the past 4 years and perhaps you will find it interesting, link: (https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Scarab_of_king_Tut-E_22807-Egypte_louvre_148.jpg)
Hey this was an absolutely fantastic presentation by Andras. I was delighted as it provided a really good clarification for some of the work by Konstantin Meyl. He always just glossed over the fact that it all worked by using physical constants instead of SI constants by referring to it as a "potential vortex" where the speed of light was what actually determined the size of the electron. He deduced many of the same fundamental constants, but he never showed the fractal torus geometry for the electron of proton (only for neutrino and photon). This really clarified things for me. I thought it was also fantastic how Andras constantly clarified that his Bohr style atom example was purely an example and that the electron orbit field did actually fit to schrodingers orbital shapes. I really would love some kind of visual illustration of how one can take this fractal donut and actually get one of the more complex schrodinger orbitals out of it. I have no doubt it's possible but it would either require some kind of pulsation in the electron spin radius or it would require a pretty contorted donut :).
Anyways onto my question, on the slide visible at 42:50 in the reply, Andras shows the connection between the electric field and magnetic field showing they can both be used to deduce the total KeV. I believe he also illustrate his solution was consistent with the fine structure constant 137' or whatever it is. I'm curious if the ratio of his orbitals falls into the D4D sizing, The proton structure at 1:00:44 shows the D4D size clearly. https://youtu.be/Hnpxr8YWb3k?t=3644
Poloidal radius 0.21 fm
Toroidal radius 0.587 fm
One can learly see that D would be 2*0.21 = 0.42
And the total width of the donut would be 4D 2*0.587+2*0.21 = 1.594
Which is pretty dang close to D4D.
I'm curious about the electron though about how many rings he supposes it as, I suspect the research of Pavel is going to give a solid derivation of the number of rings and whether D4D perfectly matches for the electron too. I very much look forward to your interview with him too.
Thanks Andras for your great work and solid presentation!
Just my 2 cents, but the notion of a spinning torus morphing into a sphere is reminiscent of the Super-Structure in the movie CONTACT, wherein the spin of the machine's double-circular-rings does indeed coalesce into a sphere. Always enjoyed that part....Cheers,,,PS yes, great discussion. Love how Axil Axil is pushing back with the Higgs field and the no-particle electron. Time for popcorn, says Joe Layman!
Dr. Randell Mills developed a model of the electron in atomic hydrogen , which predicts the common occurrence of a smaller diameter, and lower rest energy form of atomic hydrogen he called hydrino. Many experiments confirm the predicted physical properties of hydrino. The catalyzed hydrino reaction in the surface plasma of stars is the source of a major part of the light radiated by visible stars. Hydrino is a major constituent of dark atomic mass in galaxies. Brilliant Light Power has developed a 250 kW hydrino reactor that uses hydrogen as a chemical fuel for the hydrino reaction, releasing 200X the energy of burning hydrogen with oxygen. The chemical energy released by the catalyzed hydrino reaction allows hydrogen fuel to be supplied by hydrolysis of water extracted from the atmosphere by condensation of water vapor, even in the driest regions. Hydrino must be accounted for in theory of matter in all phases, including ball lightning. brilliantlightpower.com/gem-2023-presentation-boston-march-7-2023/
"The strange filaments, each of which stretches five to 10 light years through space, resemble the dots and dashes of morse code on a vast scale. They spread out from the galactic centre 25,000 light years from Earth like fragmented spokes on an enormous wheel.
Farhad Yusef-Zadeh, an astronomer at Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois, said he was “stunned” to discover the structures in data taken by the MeerKAT radio telescope in the Northern Cape of South Africa."
Are we surprised? Nope.
Also, these threads appear to be being emitted from the black hole:
"The shorter, horizontal threads that spread out from the centre of the Milky Way came into focus when the scientists removed the background and filtered noise from the MeerKAT images. Yusef-Zadeh believes the structures, described in the Astrophysical Journal Letters, formed through a different process to the larger, vertical filaments.
He suspects that an outburst of material from the black hole about 6m years ago slammed into surrounding stars and gas clouds, creating streaks of hot plasma that point back towards the black hole. The effect is akin to blowing blobs of paint across a canvas with a hairdryer.
“The outflow from the black hole interacts with the objects it meets and distorts their shape,” Yusef-Zadeh said. “It’s sufficient to blow everything in the same direction.”
By studying the cosmic threads, astronomers hope to understand more about the spin of the Milky Way’s central black hole and the accretion disc of infalling material that whirls around it."
Why, they are just like "the frozen filaments" observed around the EVO strikes - so, quite possibly EVOs streaming out from the "Black Hole" (as per VEGA). There may also be some streaming in - I wouldn't discount it.
Still, more fractal behaviour - Black Hole / VEGA.
Yet they go on pushing the gravitation-only model - as in "infalling material". NO, the (99.9% plasma) galaxy is an electromagnetic vortex with an electromagnetic centre. Talk about having to be dragged, kicking and screaming... Ah, well.
After sleeping through the video the first time. The second time was more interesting. The neutrino in my theory is a negative charge. The neutron is a negative charge relevant to the summon of the electrons plus the neutron charge, which equals the Protron plus the quirk as the positive charge.
Now we have this when the neutrino acts on the neutron it becomes move negative and so release a electron. If we add HV then you get a cascade affect of electrons. This high negative charge opposes the earth's negative ground effect and also anything else which has the same negative affect.
The only thing is frequency. What is the frequency doing, vibrational effect of electrons or atoms?
Do you know how me and my friend measured the shape of the electron with an oscilloscope?
We made probes out of TV cable that is shielded and grounded. Then we got samples of metals. All kinds. Then we calculated the inductance of the metal bars or rods and then matched these to the proper lengths of the probe wires inductance. This allowed us to place the probes on the two ends of metal bars or rods and the oscilloscope showed the shape of the electrons as all of the electrons in the sample added up to give us a picture on the oscilloscope.
I was looking around a bit for an explanation of clifford algebra. Most of them are fairly technical but this one (https://www.av8n.com/physics/clifford-intro.htm#sec-overview) is reasonable. Would have been nice if there would have been a few more examples.
Bob,
This broadcast should be interesting as I chat with many scientists and actually helped an amateur friend of mine do experiments on electrons in metals with an oscilloscope to prove that electrons are actually toroidal just like the universe that recycles the matter in the universe. I just chatted with a mainstream scientist on academia on this very subject. Thanks for keeping me in the loop.
Rick
Reviewing the papers, I can sense how insight and understanding can unfold overtime in the space between our ears, yet the gnawing simplicity of what actually is, and how we harness what is -- via choices, remains "macro-nic." I just notice that so often Spin is how we take hold of any/all forms of Reality. I mix paint, for example. That you chose to do this work, and we all chose to hear you and have a look-see, greatly expands our abilities to optimize those choices. Mike Levin on "micro-agency" in cells is making more and more sense, for example. Best wishes for the next presentation, Bob!
Have just read 2 of the 3 papers. So many questions.. where is an electron during position changes? Are the Vortex Ring Fractals totally in our dimensions? Are they powered by the flow of another dimension? Or are they fluctuating in and out of quantum existence? Is half the vortex ring in another dimension? Fascinating theories in these papers and clear diagrams. It does make sense this VRF Theory. Great find, well done.
-By the way I think you put the wrong link. The last two links you put are the exact same thing, But I think are supposed to be two separate papers
Very amazing work by Pavel Osmera! Great find. Can’t wait for the presentation.
Perhaps the deity of the 4 pairs he is referring to is Ogdoad? Earliest findings of depictions showing the “eightfold god” Go back to the 13th century bc. Interestingly this is the same time period of the image of “Egyptian King Tut-E’s signet ring on show at the Louvre”, which has been floating in my files for the past 4 years and perhaps you will find it interesting, link: (https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Scarab_of_king_Tut-E_22807-Egypte_louvre_148.jpg)
Hey this was an absolutely fantastic presentation by Andras. I was delighted as it provided a really good clarification for some of the work by Konstantin Meyl. He always just glossed over the fact that it all worked by using physical constants instead of SI constants by referring to it as a "potential vortex" where the speed of light was what actually determined the size of the electron. He deduced many of the same fundamental constants, but he never showed the fractal torus geometry for the electron of proton (only for neutrino and photon). This really clarified things for me. I thought it was also fantastic how Andras constantly clarified that his Bohr style atom example was purely an example and that the electron orbit field did actually fit to schrodingers orbital shapes. I really would love some kind of visual illustration of how one can take this fractal donut and actually get one of the more complex schrodinger orbitals out of it. I have no doubt it's possible but it would either require some kind of pulsation in the electron spin radius or it would require a pretty contorted donut :).
Anyways onto my question, on the slide visible at 42:50 in the reply, Andras shows the connection between the electric field and magnetic field showing they can both be used to deduce the total KeV. I believe he also illustrate his solution was consistent with the fine structure constant 137' or whatever it is. I'm curious if the ratio of his orbitals falls into the D4D sizing, The proton structure at 1:00:44 shows the D4D size clearly. https://youtu.be/Hnpxr8YWb3k?t=3644
Poloidal radius 0.21 fm
Toroidal radius 0.587 fm
One can learly see that D would be 2*0.21 = 0.42
And the total width of the donut would be 4D 2*0.587+2*0.21 = 1.594
Which is pretty dang close to D4D.
I'm curious about the electron though about how many rings he supposes it as, I suspect the research of Pavel is going to give a solid derivation of the number of rings and whether D4D perfectly matches for the electron too. I very much look forward to your interview with him too.
Thanks Andras for your great work and solid presentation!
Just my 2 cents, but the notion of a spinning torus morphing into a sphere is reminiscent of the Super-Structure in the movie CONTACT, wherein the spin of the machine's double-circular-rings does indeed coalesce into a sphere. Always enjoyed that part....Cheers,,,PS yes, great discussion. Love how Axil Axil is pushing back with the Higgs field and the no-particle electron. Time for popcorn, says Joe Layman!
Dr. Randell Mills developed a model of the electron in atomic hydrogen , which predicts the common occurrence of a smaller diameter, and lower rest energy form of atomic hydrogen he called hydrino. Many experiments confirm the predicted physical properties of hydrino. The catalyzed hydrino reaction in the surface plasma of stars is the source of a major part of the light radiated by visible stars. Hydrino is a major constituent of dark atomic mass in galaxies. Brilliant Light Power has developed a 250 kW hydrino reactor that uses hydrogen as a chemical fuel for the hydrino reaction, releasing 200X the energy of burning hydrogen with oxygen. The chemical energy released by the catalyzed hydrino reaction allows hydrogen fuel to be supplied by hydrolysis of water extracted from the atmosphere by condensation of water vapor, even in the driest regions. Hydrino must be accounted for in theory of matter in all phases, including ball lightning. brilliantlightpower.com/gem-2023-presentation-boston-march-7-2023/
From:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2023/jun/02/scientists-discover-mysterious-cosmic-threads-in-milky-way
"The strange filaments, each of which stretches five to 10 light years through space, resemble the dots and dashes of morse code on a vast scale. They spread out from the galactic centre 25,000 light years from Earth like fragmented spokes on an enormous wheel.
Farhad Yusef-Zadeh, an astronomer at Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois, said he was “stunned” to discover the structures in data taken by the MeerKAT radio telescope in the Northern Cape of South Africa."
Are we surprised? Nope.
Also, these threads appear to be being emitted from the black hole:
"The shorter, horizontal threads that spread out from the centre of the Milky Way came into focus when the scientists removed the background and filtered noise from the MeerKAT images. Yusef-Zadeh believes the structures, described in the Astrophysical Journal Letters, formed through a different process to the larger, vertical filaments.
He suspects that an outburst of material from the black hole about 6m years ago slammed into surrounding stars and gas clouds, creating streaks of hot plasma that point back towards the black hole. The effect is akin to blowing blobs of paint across a canvas with a hairdryer.
“The outflow from the black hole interacts with the objects it meets and distorts their shape,” Yusef-Zadeh said. “It’s sufficient to blow everything in the same direction.”
By studying the cosmic threads, astronomers hope to understand more about the spin of the Milky Way’s central black hole and the accretion disc of infalling material that whirls around it."
Why, they are just like "the frozen filaments" observed around the EVO strikes - so, quite possibly EVOs streaming out from the "Black Hole" (as per VEGA). There may also be some streaming in - I wouldn't discount it.
Still, more fractal behaviour - Black Hole / VEGA.
Yet they go on pushing the gravitation-only model - as in "infalling material". NO, the (99.9% plasma) galaxy is an electromagnetic vortex with an electromagnetic centre. Talk about having to be dragged, kicking and screaming... Ah, well.
After sleeping through the video the first time. The second time was more interesting. The neutrino in my theory is a negative charge. The neutron is a negative charge relevant to the summon of the electrons plus the neutron charge, which equals the Protron plus the quirk as the positive charge.
Now we have this when the neutrino acts on the neutron it becomes move negative and so release a electron. If we add HV then you get a cascade affect of electrons. This high negative charge opposes the earth's negative ground effect and also anything else which has the same negative affect.
The only thing is frequency. What is the frequency doing, vibrational effect of electrons or atoms?
Anyway only a theory, and I could be miles off.
Thanks.
I love the toroidal directions.
I keep meaning to go back to the work of Arie DeGeus, http://rexresearch.com/degeus/degeus.htm
Entire formalism of the proton, electron, neutron as toroids.
Plenty of good experimental work also.
Hi Bob,
via:
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3990
I was looking at this:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/31798/the-secretive-inventor-of-the-navys-bizarre-ufo-patents-finally-talks
and thought it might be of interest.
Bob,
Do you know how me and my friend measured the shape of the electron with an oscilloscope?
We made probes out of TV cable that is shielded and grounded. Then we got samples of metals. All kinds. Then we calculated the inductance of the metal bars or rods and then matched these to the proper lengths of the probe wires inductance. This allowed us to place the probes on the two ends of metal bars or rods and the oscilloscope showed the shape of the electrons as all of the electrons in the sample added up to give us a picture on the oscilloscope.
Rick
I was looking around a bit for an explanation of clifford algebra. Most of them are fairly technical but this one (https://www.av8n.com/physics/clifford-intro.htm#sec-overview) is reasonable. Would have been nice if there would have been a few more examples.
This just released, Not sure where it is going.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZSj7QsHRxHQ&feature=share9