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May 14, 2023Liked by Bob Greenyer

Thanks for the EGO out, Bob. All the best mate to your family and look after yourself.

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Pleasure and cheers

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May 14, 2023Liked by Bob Greenyer

OT: I found a pair of moqui marbles in my stone collection.

ChatGPT :

"Moqui Marbles, also known as Mochi Balls or Shaman Stones, are round sandstone balls (surrounded by iron oxide) found in the desert region of the western United States that are considered sacred by the Navajo Native Americans. They have been given the name "living stones" due to their unique properties and meanings.

The term "living stones" comes from the Navajo belief that these stones have a soul and lead a kind of spiritual life. They are considered messengers of the earth, capable of capturing and storing the energy of the cosmos. The stones are often used by shamans in spiritual and healing ceremonies to calm the participant's spirit and restore balance.

The Navajo also consider these stones a connection to nature and creation stories. They believe that the stones are witnesses to creation and have a spiritual connection to the sacred sites of their ancestors. Therefore, the Navajo have given these stones the name "living stones" as they believe they are a part of the living cosmos.

In New Age spirituality, Moqui Marbles are also popular as protection stones and for grounding. Many people believe that these stones can help absorb negative energy and generate positive vibrations."

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May 15, 2023Liked by Bob Greenyer

hey Bob, regarding structured water devices changing surface tension of water I am still hunting for the original video I saw it in, but a cursory search turns up the following result.

https://www.frequencyrising.com/water_structured.htm

"Structured water formed with blue light or North Pole magnetic energy is slightly alkaline and has an increased surface tension. Water structured with yellow and red light, south pole magnetic energy or within a pyramid is slightly acidic and has a decreased surface tension."

The two original videos I saw it in were a little more reputable and associated with claims by companies selling water structuring devices one in russia and the other in the west.

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Well isn't that very interesting.

A north pole will, in my view, push into water and the Oxygen in the water will capture the clusters. Moreover, Shiskin argues that Charge Clusters etc. can be moved by light and specifically notes that LENR experiments triggered by laser light may actually be triggered by the CCs that are moved towards the target. Now Blue light is, as you know higher energy. Blue light is also able to penetrate deeply into water as any diver knows.

The opposite effect for south pole makes sense also, it decreases surface tension. This would comport with the water spout action. I will have to check on the polarity of magnet bands that are claimed to have health benefits. Lowering the surface tension of water would have health benefits if say blood could flow more easily in veins.

Specific frequencies of IR light are known to create EZ water. Red light does not penetrate deeply into water, it is absorbed and therefore its energy is transferred to the water. The top most surface is the area of highest absorption.

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May 15, 2023Liked by Bob Greenyer

UPDATE: Found another site: https://www.hexahedron999.com/4.12-structured-water-and-surface-tension-hexahedron-999-biophoton-water.html where it makes claims and directs ones to the research by Gerald Pollack "In 2013 Gerald H. Pollack published his book "The Fourth Phase of Water" which he calls EZ Water. This book is a must read for anyone interested in structured water. See Videos. The subject of surface tension and EZ can be found in Chapter 16 - starting on page 283." In the book the quote at the end of chapter 16 is "The agent creating all that tension is the subsurface EZ water mosaic.".

I think I found the link to the video it may have been as I recorded it in an email, I couldn't find it in youtube history because "This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated." ;) I'll keep looking though

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Haha - see my comment above!

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They have a chart noting that surface tension drops with temperature - well of course...

I argue that surface tension changes with concentration of Charge Clusters.

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Hmmm - not impressed by the video on that website - looks like focus / bokeh artefacts.

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May 15, 2023·edited May 15, 2023Liked by Bob Greenyer

Hey Bob, yeah sorry I'm not finding the videos I original saw they appear to all have been deleted. The gist was just these CEO's all saying that there devices made structured water and that one could confirm it by measuring a change in the surface tension of the water. The devices were all some combination of magnet and vortex systems. The last link I'll post regarding this is the following science direct reference.k

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0045653518305836

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It was also proved that the gradient of the magnetic field is more important than the magnetic field strength itself.

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The review of the literature dealing with magnetic force treatment of water and aqueous solutions, mostly in the aspect of hard scale prevention, indicates that there still is a lack of consistent theory of the field mechanism action. However, the papers published during, say, last decade clearly put forward our understanding of the field action which is based on changes in the structure of water via hydrogen bonding in intraclusters and between interclusters.

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Lots of wild claims online and people getting creative to sell something or other and provide some seemingly rational explanation hahaha :)

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I think that there is strong evidence that something can be done.

I have been working with a former professor here in Czech Pavel Osmera who is a bit of an expert on structured water.

http://www.pavelosmera.cz

Weirdly, this is the first time I have visited his site and I just found his papers - no wonder he was excited to meet me... here is a few examples

http://www.pavelosmera.cz/public/files/2009-osmera-wcecs.pdf

http://www.pavelosmera.cz/public/files/2010-osmera-mendel1.pdf

http://www.pavelosmera.cz/public/files/Mendel2012_electron_p_186.pdf

http://www.pavelosmera.cz/public/files/SPIE_Osmera_9570_56b.pdf

This is how I see an electron and other non-charged leptons such as neutrinos - and in this case, it will have a small toroidal moment, hence why it can be attracted by larger toroidal moments and forced to condense.

On Ball Lightning.

http://www.pavelosmera.cz/public/files/2010-osmera-mendel2.pdf

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May 15, 2023Liked by Bob Greenyer

Wowzers!!! Bob what a find :) I'm glad whatever crazy tangent I sent you on got you to look at this guys site hahahaha this stuff is gold!!

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May 15, 2023·edited May 15, 2023Author

That is what happened, I have visited him 3 times between this year and last, but did not know this site existed - I searched for his name to find some context to share with you and - this popped up.

It supports my intuition, in fact it was only after sharing the physical evidence of what I call 'macro-quantum objects and their impacts" (Hutchison, NOVA, Ralkar, Ohmasa, LION, ULTR, VEGA etc. ) strike marks and physical fractal toroidal manifestations - which led to the Zhvirblis / Nevessky / Fryberger reveal, that someone in Germany introduced me to him - essentially because I had predicted from observation and then seen for real a fractal toroidal structure and this was similar to his hypothesis for matter sub-structure.

Given this view, one can easily see how the toroidal moment can capture and condense relic neutrinos and reach into matter, past EM fields and disrupt the way electrons work.

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May 21, 2023Liked by Bob Greenyer

The theory of the EVO that I have been converging on is called the anthropic principle as a resolution to the too light Higgs vacuum expectation value VEV.

This is a theory where our universe is the only one in which we can live in. All the other values of the VEV creates universes (within a multiverse) that cannot support life and the laws of nature that support life. There are uncountable numbers of EVOs spread throughout the universe that have every possible VEV. Each one of these unique EVOs is a unique universe in its own wright. Each of these EVO types is associated with a unique VEV. By changing the VEV value beyond the VEV of our universe by 1.2 then particles cannot form neutrons and nuclear binding energy fails to form atoms.

The anthropic principle and the atomic principle in this video lecture is explained as a potential solution to the Hierarchy problem.

The video up until 13:05 addresses the anthropic principle as a solution to the Hierarchy problem and the multiverse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP1VL6-jgDk

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Thanks Axil for sharing your hypothesis here.

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May 21, 2023Liked by Bob Greenyer

I wanted to document the theory just in case I pass shortly. You never know.

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Very wise and completely in the spirit of this blog, thank you

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Bob and all, I missed the live video as well as the zoom call. YouTube notifications have become broken for me lately. But to address the issue of EGO out, I see a few problems that have always been there but just keep getting bigger and bigger. 1st You are great at dissemination of knowledge and are superb with helping others to understand the information you have. I look at it as you push out the knowledge in various threads, but there is a wall or blockage with return information coming back from the group. (lets just say experimenter updates, questions for specific people, experiments, and video as well as data results are all difficult to share), It becomes difficult to know where the current status of any one thread is at unless you specifically address the topic with a dedicated video presentation (which can take months on some threads).

One possible partial solution would be to allow each person to have their own workbench underneath a global thread topic (similar to what open-source-energy forum does). Everyone could read and comment to other people's workbench under the same topic, but the workbench owner maintains control of all published work on their workbench. This would encourage sharing, and also maintaining a fully searchable repository of work should an experimenter quit or heaven forbid die. It would help to reduce the number of emergency rescue trips to retrieve someone's life work.

Perhaps there is already some form of this that I just do not know about or am not allowed into.

As to the question of how to proceed, I think you mentioned that it is up to each person to do their best to push the field farther and that academia, industry, and governments are probably not going to be the paths forward. If this is the case, then I would stop focusing so much on trying to convince others that the effect is real and spend more time developing real world solutions to problems. I think that most of the group here knows the effects are real and have not needed thousands of replications before accepting the field, or moving forward with experiments and study. Yes there are always going to be newbs just starting out and they will need to be brought up to speed -- somehow.

So for me to put my money where my mouth is, here is a video of a project that I think can be upgraded with a combination of the windhexe, geet, HHO, and charge separation methods in a quite simple unit.

I will likely remove this video after only a short time as It needs to be completely redone for obvious reasons. https://youtu.be/wG8z4gahzg8

Remember, the video deals only with laminar flows, if we introduce a vortex flow with ionization, I believe it could 100X or more its output, not just mechanically but using charge separation, perhaps the flow of these separated charges past coils such as Pap and others have done would be far better than mechanical output.

Anyway, this becomes yet another thread that gets lost in the haystack, but at least this is where my head is at the moment.

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That is the thing, searchable materials.

People need to document. That takes time. What is clear from Matsumoto's work, is that even a very brilliantly crafted work can still not inform how the work is actually done. In just the first video I have been able to share - it is immediately clear how he did his lead wire experiment - in a way that was not so clear even when I had painstakingly gone through with Phillip Power and re-mastered the original book.

All of the original directors of the MFMP were given edit access to QuantumHeat.org - but invariably, I had to gather together their content and publish it. Even here on Substack, where it is free to launch and publish, several researchers have their own pages, but do not publish to them.

People can publish comments and links here. The chat is not perfect yet on Substack, when that is - it will be a good place as it allows people to post not just links (as in comments) but also directly upload images.

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Hi Ken,

Thanks for this, Back in the mid 2000s, I was asking why UK and US didn't spend trillions of dollars giving potable water and electricity to the poor of Africa and making friends of this continent and more, rather than trying to bomb the middle east into liking us.

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May 17, 2023·edited May 17, 2023Liked by Bob Greenyer

One thing I had thought of but then forgot to mention is that the effects of falling water droplets through a metal tube essentially is a Lord Kelvin's thunderstorm power supply in itself. Perhaps sprayed water in and transmuted elements out? Power, fresh water, a lush greenhouse of veggies, a vending machine of elements, and a fantastic view all at the same time? How can you beat that?

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It is the scale of these things - and nature does it so good with the water cycle.

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May 17, 2023Liked by Bob Greenyer

Lewis Larsen is another LENR worker that has recently passed. Larson came up with the polariton causation of LENR which I also beleive. He had a great influence on NASA and might have inspired the decades long NASA's belief in the polariton as a primary cause of the LENR reaction. Now that Larsen is gone, the polariton theory has been discarded by NASA. This theory is now forgotten LENR history and is in danger of loss.

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Not forgotten. Moreover, NASA has not shown that its current understanding is supported by proper ways of measuring neutrons (like Indium activation and subsequent x-ray decay rate determination).

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May 17, 2023Liked by Bob Greenyer

Bob,

I am a little concerned when you say that you are going to give a presentation NEXT week about a significant effect seen by LION, which LION was shopping to the UK government and didn't go public with and you didn't say what the effect was. I would worry less if you said exactly what it was on Sunday and then say that you plan to give a more in depth presentation of it next week... Maybe I'm just a little paranoid, but I know you know people have been killed for not playing ball on this subject. You broke your rule of releasing information the first moment you speak of it publicly. Unfortunately, we live on a planet ruled by evil that is watching its control slipping away, which makes the evil all the more dangerous. Don't you think it would be prudent to make a quick video to briefly explain what it is we will discuss on Sunday? (preferably it would have been better if you didn't mention anything until you were presenting it live, but can't change it now). Please don't misread my intent or tone, I'm just trying to help. Paul

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I introduced many things into my after EGO OUT presentation ZOOM that need proper attention to get them out of the door. For some things that were fully from me, I gave a fuller description - like how I see the Fractal Toroidal Moments influence on electrons (and other spin matter) as a progressive process with various levels of action.

In the case of the LION information, perhaps I should not have mentioned it, but here is my logic - part of why I went to UK on a moments notice to rescue LIONs things, was to find out if the materials included evidence of statements he had made to me years ago which I tried to encourage him to make public. When I dropped off the effects at the volunteers place in Newcastle - I was very clear to tell the persons exactly what I was told and to look out for it. During last week, the evidence was found, so I knew that it was not lost in the EGO OUT sense, but was in fact secured. I was frankly incredibly exhausted and had almost no time to prepare for sundays presentation and ZOOM, but I wanted to ensure knowledge of it and the evidence of it having been documented was secured.

I am sure that if something were to happen to me between Sunday and when I published it, It would not be lost due to it being in the possession of a third party. But, though I did not have enough time to prepare the material, I wanted to ensure that knowledge of it was in the community.

Of course, I will make a quick video.

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May 17, 2023Liked by Bob Greenyer

Bob, I hope you know that what I said was out of concern and wasn't meant to beat you up. You have excelled in this whole process and I respect and appreciate you immensely. You... You took the chance to make a difference in this field when so many other people didn't.

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I know how you meant it - I just wanted you to know that I did the best I could as soon as I could as I was excited to preview what was coming, knowing that it was secure.

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May 15, 2023Liked by Bob Greenyer

Kudos for getting it accepted! We heard there were over 100 submissions so it was quite competitive! Diadon Acs also got his submission accepted.

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Very happy that Diadon got accepted.

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May 15, 2023Liked by Bob Greenyer

Ah shame I missed this!

Are there any minutes from the zoom?

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Now published the Zoom call - above.

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May 14, 2023Liked by Bob Greenyer

Looking for zoom as well.

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Published above

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The reason why the universe is not consumed by an EVO is because EVOs are unstable. An EVO will eventually explode when it absorbs more energy than it can digest.

To start the explanation, there are only two types of universes that are possible: DeSutter space and anti DeSutter space (AdS). Our universe is DeSutter space, the EVO is anti DeSutter space the anti field of DeSutter space. DeSutter space contains positive energy and a positive cosmological constant, and anti DeSutter space contains negative energy and a negative cosmological constant.

The next point is the ball of transmuted material that is most often left after the EVO terminates. That ball is likely produced by a black hole that has formed or is in the process of forming at the center of a mature EVO. The article also explains why an EVO will terminate when it is excited. Next, the article explains why energy is never released from AdS, that is, transmutation does not produce energy.

.The following article explains how this black hole forms inside Anti DeSutter space and why anti DeSutter space is unstable.

https://www.quantamagazine.org/new-math-proves-that-a-special-kind-of-space-time-is-unstable-20200511/

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Ken Shoulders wrote as follows:

http://www.rexresearch.com/shoulders/ALeakFromOurUniversetoAnother.pdf

A Leak From Our Universe to Another

I can't find the reason why Ken Shoulders changed the name of the EVO from EV(large electron) to exotic vacuum object because that is what the EVO really is as follows:

Because the EVO has a negative vacuum state relative to the cosmological vacuum, the main body of the EVO cannot interact with anything in our universe with the exception of an EVO that projects magnetic vortex flux tubes.

Kiril Chukanov found this EVO barrier to exist in his experiments. Neither an electrical current nor a metal rod can penetrate into the EVO.

By having another vacuum state that differs from the vacuum in our universe, (aka differing cosmological constants) because the EVO is essentially another universe with laws of physics that differs from our universe, the magnetic field in these vortex flux tubes are different then the magnetic fields that we experience in current EMF.

One indicator that the EVO abides under a different set of physical laws is the fact that no radioactive isotopes are produced after transmutation occurs. This indicates that the EVO operates under a unified bosonic force structure which includes the unified electroweak force. This unified force structure is carried by bosons imbedded in the EVO's magnetic field of the vortex flux tubes that only existed in the early universe.

In another example, in a superconductor, electrons have no mass and photons have mass. The vacuum produced by a superconductor is an opposite anti-vacuum to our vacuum state. When the EVO magnetic flux tube touches matter in our universe, that matter is instantly reorganized and after the EVO flux tube passes by this affected matter will transmute into another random element.

In strange radiation, when a rapidly rotating EVO rapidly floats over a surface and its flux tube periodically projects onto that surface, the elements on that surface are instantly transmuted into other elements so rapidly it seems like time does not exist inside the EVO. On each rotation of the EVO, the identically same pattern of transmuted elements and their layout on the surface appears over and over again.

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Lewis Larsen was half right. He did not know about the Higgs field and the Higgs mode in superconductivity. So here is where the energy comes from in the vacuum based LENR reaction as follows:

​There is a direct connection between superconductivity and the Higgs field (aka Vacuum energy). That connection is the energy potential of both of these processes.

In a superconductor, the Higgs Mode or the Higgs amplitude mode is a quantum phenomenon seen in materials and occurs when the magnetic field of its electrons in those materials fluctuate in a way similar to that of a Higgs boson in the vacuum. The materials that exhibit this phenomenon can do so because the crystal structure of the material enables the electrons to behave in a way that is driven by the Higgs field. When the Higgs mode presents itself in these materials, the material is often undergoing a quantum phase transition. For example, when a material becomes a superconductor, the material goes through spontaneous symmetry breaking and the mass of the electron becomes zero.

What is the same between a superconductor and the Higgs field is the potential energy behavior of each system. Under spontaneous symmetry breaking, the behavior of these two system are the opposite of the other or "anti field" of the other. In the Higgs field, the mass of the electron is created but in a superconductor, the mass of the electron is destroyed.

The Higgs field energy potential as follows:

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-5ea80f172c95f7700097560cfc7cd87f-pjlq

The interaction between these two systems is where the energy of the vacuum emery LENR reaction comes from.

Bose Einstein condensation (BEC) is a superconducting process that produces the Higgs mode and this system is inherently unstable; the BEC will eventually fail. The process of this failure is called a Bosenova. This is a quantum mechanical explosion. The "collapse and bounce" scenario of this process qualitatively resembles a condensed matter version of a core-collapse supernova​, hence the term bosenova. ​​

The Bosenova has been observed in Bose condensate ultra cold atom experimentation:

In the particular experiment when a bosenova was first detected, transitioning the self-interaction​ from repulsive to attractive caused the BEC to implode and shrink to a size smaller than the optical detector's minimum resolution limit, and then suddenly "explode." In this explosion, about half of the atoms in the condensate superficially seemed to have "disappeared" from the experiment altogether, i.e., they were not detected in either the cold particle remnants nor in the expanding gas cloud produced.

The 'missing' atoms are almost certainly still around in some form, but just not in a form that we can detect them in our current experiment, the two likely possibilities are that they have formed into molecules of two rubidium atoms stuck together. or they have gotten enough energy from somewhere to fly away fast enough that they are out of our observation region before we look for them," — Carl Wieman​, Space.com

Under current BEC theory, which only very crudely accounts for the interactions between the particles composing the BEC, the bosenova phenomenon remains unexplained, because the energy available to the individual atoms of the condensate near absolute zero appears to be insufficient to cause the observed implosion.

In a bosenova, energy from an unknown source is transferred to members of the BEC which radiate in a spherical light speed expansion. But only half the particles that comprise the BEC are observed with the other half disappeared.

Upon eventual instability, in a electron based superconductive BEC (aka EVO) bosenova, the energy potential of the superconductive BEC and the Higgs field interact and cancel each other out much in the same way that anti matter and matter will result in energy production.

This field energy produced by this quantum mechanical interaction will be applied to the electrons in the BEC which will expand spherically at the speed of light.

In LENR research, Dr. Kim first observed this bosenova process in a LENR reactor. We have also seen these explosions in the VEGA experiment as follows:

Slow motion mode will follow the normal speed reaction speed rendition.

Once the video is in slow motion mode, you can see the Bosenova in more detail by running YouTube at .25 speed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VuO7iYzyT8&list=PLBgQorZu_mLkP9tA0hK95iQK0o2VLQZqW&index=21

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