May 6, 2022·edited May 6, 2022Liked by Bob Greenyer
Very interesting and important finding! It is really surprising that it can be derived (quite intuitively) from the Maxwell equations, and even though nobody ever realized it. I never heard nothing similar to the concept of a closed path for the Poynting vector, but it is a direct consequence of the equations! It would be interesting simulating something similar with a multiphysics tool (such as Comsol). The other surprising thing is that this "phantom" has the same structure of an EVOs, but it is not made by electrons, but by fields (i.e. it is a property of space). Of course there should be a relationship between the two, but they are conceptually two different things.
Thanks for the hard work Bob. Amazing and hilarious paper. It's almost like the author is suffering from "fractal shock": all of a sudden miracles are real and reality makes sense. And it's "classified" too:)
Back in 90's, during bombing of Serbia, a friend of mine served in anti aircraft units and he described how one night huge hole opened in the clouds and two NATO aircraft dropped down through that hole and then they released lightning balls from under their wings. These lightning balls flew down toward their unit but nothing happened, balls didn't explode. That's exactly how story was told to me.
Bob, another ball lightning witness case where they saw an n-Tor shaped BL in the room with them, complete with what seem to be poloidal structures at 45 degree angle to the torus.
"I was on vacation in Florida sleeping when a light woke me up I looked over to see a round shape glowing on the bed next to me so I sat up and leaned close to look at it. from 2 foot away I could see it was actually a thin walled torus with stripes revolving over its surface at about a 45 degree angle to the horizontal when the stripes came to the top of the barrel / they turned over the top and went down \ again at a 45 degree angle on the inside of the barrel, upon coming to the bottom they turned over the rim and continued up on the outside of torus. on same 45 degree angle. (I think must be like a smoke ring with some sideways motion too) I wanted to touch it but when I turned on the lamp between the two beds the thing disappeared. damn oh well called wife told her all about it it was 4 in the morning it the state of Washington. the whole thing was over in minutes. from what I've read it is good that I didn't touch it."
Allen knapstad <allenknap at verizondot com use net not com> USA - Sunday, April 08, 2007 at 02:12:57 (PDT)
Thank you Bob! Fascinating stuff - this could explain so many anomalous findings by others. It all fell into place for me when I saw the circular Poynting vector.
I think a modular approach to the building of the coils could be employed, but scaled up in size with each order of the torus - possibly easy to do on a 3d printer.
I wonder if the energy input to setup the field would be equal (less losses) to what you could pull out of such a field once it was set up?
Bob, I'm just finishing writing a book about the relationship of ball lightning to paranormal phenomena. It would be great to use a graphic of the supersuperTor in my chapter on fractals. Do you think Chemistry of Life still exists as a magazine? Or is this Russian copy you received now in the public domain. Thanks.
I can’t seem to figure out how to email you or find the comment you made on where to do that. Would you be so kind and email me : carmenmagnetra@gmail.com or add me on WhatsApp 2508092314
Randell Mills writes that a free electron is a disk-shaped rotating electric field. If that is true can electrons, rotating in the same plane, then accumulate in a row and then in a toroidal.
Finished translation of N.E. NEVESSKY proof of SuperSuperTor structures and re-constructed equations. Will do layout and publish tomorrow. Here is the conclusion.
"Thus, systems composed of elementary current structures should have unusual properties both with respect to their own functioning and with respect to radiation, and this makes them an interesting subject for theoretical and experimental research."
Thanks so much for the translation. Boy did that ever click with me. So beautiful to contemplate the implications of the holofractal torus.
I can't help but think that so called Antiquitech that powered temples and star forts etc is nothing but EVOs being charged or pumped by tuning to the Schuman resonance or a harmonic thereof. Lightening rods and the power grid would mask that. In fact I seem to recall Stienmetz was brought in to stop the grids from resonating and running themselves when the breakers to the generators were opened.
Notice how a natural river course looks like an EVO path? I bet there is a a suable way to leverage that flow too. Vicktor Shauberger said about nature, "Comprehend and copy," a sentiment I know you agree with. I seem to recall there were healthy and unhealthy sides of riverbends. Reminds me of the handedness of the coils/EVOs in the paper.
Lots to think about. Especially re feathers and scales and hair and nails and bones.
What is really interesting is that DNA is coiled in this same triple coil way. Like taking old analog phone cable and coiling it around a bagel. Maybe there is a reason that DNA does this?
Very interesting and important finding! It is really surprising that it can be derived (quite intuitively) from the Maxwell equations, and even though nobody ever realized it. I never heard nothing similar to the concept of a closed path for the Poynting vector, but it is a direct consequence of the equations! It would be interesting simulating something similar with a multiphysics tool (such as Comsol). The other surprising thing is that this "phantom" has the same structure of an EVOs, but it is not made by electrons, but by fields (i.e. it is a property of space). Of course there should be a relationship between the two, but they are conceptually two different things.
EDIT: I found this paper that may be related/relevant: https://eprints.soton.ac.uk/380437/1/accepted_version.pdf
Thanks for the hard work Bob. Amazing and hilarious paper. It's almost like the author is suffering from "fractal shock": all of a sudden miracles are real and reality makes sense. And it's "classified" too:)
Thank you much for the translation
I can tell you as well this had been weaponized.
Back in 90's, during bombing of Serbia, a friend of mine served in anti aircraft units and he described how one night huge hole opened in the clouds and two NATO aircraft dropped down through that hole and then they released lightning balls from under their wings. These lightning balls flew down toward their unit but nothing happened, balls didn't explode. That's exactly how story was told to me.
Hi Bob, so on page 4, is it saying the left-left-right-right is the proper configuration? Is that the "geometry of the emitter" it means?
Bob, another ball lightning witness case where they saw an n-Tor shaped BL in the room with them, complete with what seem to be poloidal structures at 45 degree angle to the torus.
"I was on vacation in Florida sleeping when a light woke me up I looked over to see a round shape glowing on the bed next to me so I sat up and leaned close to look at it. from 2 foot away I could see it was actually a thin walled torus with stripes revolving over its surface at about a 45 degree angle to the horizontal when the stripes came to the top of the barrel / they turned over the top and went down \ again at a 45 degree angle on the inside of the barrel, upon coming to the bottom they turned over the rim and continued up on the outside of torus. on same 45 degree angle. (I think must be like a smoke ring with some sideways motion too) I wanted to touch it but when I turned on the lamp between the two beds the thing disappeared. damn oh well called wife told her all about it it was 4 in the morning it the state of Washington. the whole thing was over in minutes. from what I've read it is good that I didn't touch it."
Allen knapstad <allenknap at verizondot com use net not com> USA - Sunday, April 08, 2007 at 02:12:57 (PDT)
Thank you Bob! Fascinating stuff - this could explain so many anomalous findings by others. It all fell into place for me when I saw the circular Poynting vector.
I think a modular approach to the building of the coils could be employed, but scaled up in size with each order of the torus - possibly easy to do on a 3d printer.
I wonder if the energy input to setup the field would be equal (less losses) to what you could pull out of such a field once it was set up?
Bob, I'm just finishing writing a book about the relationship of ball lightning to paranormal phenomena. It would be great to use a graphic of the supersuperTor in my chapter on fractals. Do you think Chemistry of Life still exists as a magazine? Or is this Russian copy you received now in the public domain. Thanks.
Hi Bob
I can’t seem to figure out how to email you or find the comment you made on where to do that. Would you be so kind and email me : carmenmagnetra@gmail.com or add me on WhatsApp 2508092314
Randell Mills writes that a free electron is a disk-shaped rotating electric field. If that is true can electrons, rotating in the same plane, then accumulate in a row and then in a toroidal.
https://brilliantlightpower.com/atomic-theory/
Anybody find this yet "Journal of Electricity 1993, No 12 pp 49-52" for the mathematical treatment?
Would love to start getting into the math now, since it will probably take me several months to digest it.
fascinating ... any plans for reproduction ?
Finished translation of N.E. NEVESSKY proof of SuperSuperTor structures and re-constructed equations. Will do layout and publish tomorrow. Here is the conclusion.
"Thus, systems composed of elementary current structures should have unusual properties both with respect to their own functioning and with respect to radiation, and this makes them an interesting subject for theoretical and experimental research."
Thanks so much for the translation. Boy did that ever click with me. So beautiful to contemplate the implications of the holofractal torus.
I can't help but think that so called Antiquitech that powered temples and star forts etc is nothing but EVOs being charged or pumped by tuning to the Schuman resonance or a harmonic thereof. Lightening rods and the power grid would mask that. In fact I seem to recall Stienmetz was brought in to stop the grids from resonating and running themselves when the breakers to the generators were opened.
Notice how a natural river course looks like an EVO path? I bet there is a a suable way to leverage that flow too. Vicktor Shauberger said about nature, "Comprehend and copy," a sentiment I know you agree with. I seem to recall there were healthy and unhealthy sides of riverbends. Reminds me of the handedness of the coils/EVOs in the paper.
Lots to think about. Especially re feathers and scales and hair and nails and bones.
It really is an exciting time to be alive.
What is really interesting is that DNA is coiled in this same triple coil way. Like taking old analog phone cable and coiling it around a bagel. Maybe there is a reason that DNA does this?
Thank Bob for all the hard work to make this available and understandable to all of us, it's a fascinating phenomena!