Thank you for the presentation Bob. I'm glad this is 2021 and I can look at it when I have the time!
Next to the details of the flow of the gas you bring up the composition of the ohmasa gas. In chemistry we love our electrons and then these molecule ( H and OH) are sometimes referred to as H. and OH. (Can't get the right notation in text here sorry) . Molecules with unpaired electrons can be quite stable but they do like to find each other and react. This gas must be made in situ / fresh to work properly I recon? Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) is not that stable and tends to decompose under light into radicals like OH and OOH. Perhaps this can be used in combination of H2 and O2 gas? I'm sure this is tried before but just in case...
I'll try to use it with the ultrasonics to see if there's any change. Martijn
I think it is a very interesting avenue to take, it might inform on if it is specifically OH or that in combination with H2O, 1H, H2 etc. that does the trick.
You might need to do some reading regarding H2O2 decomposition. It has different pathways producing OH but also H and OOH. Factors seen to be pH, temperature and probably also the user of different frequencies of light. UV will do this for sure.
Really enjoyed this Bob! Hope I can make it to the zoom call on Sunday depending when it is :)
I did a bit of looking into the work of Shui-Yin Lo regarding water, and it seems he has experience with some alternative medicine techniques like Homeopathy and Acupuncture. I couldn't get the paper you referenced "Proceedings of the First International Symposium on Physical, Chemical and Biological Properties of Stable Water (IE) Clusters." from the top of the website (https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/ATG/lo.html). But I found some of his more recent works related to water under the following https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0375960109010330
It's interesting that he's spent the last 20 years basically researching into water for medical purposes. His more recent book from 2009 "Double Helix Water" I just ordered it from Amazon used in print. https://www.amazon.com/Double-200-year-old-mystery-homeopathy-solved/dp/0578042525/ It's unfortunate that they also seem to sell this "double helix water" online for $60 for 15ml and the reviews are very mixed. It almost detracts from the whole argument. I hope they are forthright enough to say how one would produce it easily and don't just claim some trade secret or overly complex production technique.
Slightly off topic, but I just keep running into the same thing again and again over and over again. It seems like people are gifted with some kind of spiritual ability to do something, they feel compelled to explain it with science, are when put to the test are proved they can't reproduce it to a critical audience and thus are "debunked". Then they resort to selling a mystery product which is largely relegated as a scam by the scientific community.
I even remember John saying that some reporter said David Hudson was selling mountain rock as ORMES.
I have no doubt that something they did worked, because people with this much experience and wisdom don't just make this stuff up. But I'm really starting to feel we may as a species need to acknowledge that consciousness cannot be separated from the experiment and effects when working with these subtle energies.
Anyways I'm really happy to know that gravity collapse and nuclear regeneration are not going to suffer the same fate and that the results should be reproducible irregardless of the observer.
The regular time you do videos is fine I think :) It works out around 6 AM - 7 AM Monday Japan time, before the rest of the family wakes up *hopefully*. Thanks for the consideration!
Bob - Can you tell me where this hexavalent chromium concern is coming from?
From various HHO researchers, Chrome bearing steels can produce hexavalent chromium leading to cancer and other toxic effects
Thank you for the presentation Bob. I'm glad this is 2021 and I can look at it when I have the time!
Next to the details of the flow of the gas you bring up the composition of the ohmasa gas. In chemistry we love our electrons and then these molecule ( H and OH) are sometimes referred to as H. and OH. (Can't get the right notation in text here sorry) . Molecules with unpaired electrons can be quite stable but they do like to find each other and react. This gas must be made in situ / fresh to work properly I recon? Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) is not that stable and tends to decompose under light into radicals like OH and OOH. Perhaps this can be used in combination of H2 and O2 gas? I'm sure this is tried before but just in case...
I'll try to use it with the ultrasonics to see if there's any change. Martijn
I think it is a very interesting avenue to take, it might inform on if it is specifically OH or that in combination with H2O, 1H, H2 etc. that does the trick.
You might need to do some reading regarding H2O2 decomposition. It has different pathways producing OH but also H and OOH. Factors seen to be pH, temperature and probably also the user of different frequencies of light. UV will do this for sure.
For instance: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1350417708000072
Let me know if you need any help from the chemical side.
Really enjoyed this Bob! Hope I can make it to the zoom call on Sunday depending when it is :)
I did a bit of looking into the work of Shui-Yin Lo regarding water, and it seems he has experience with some alternative medicine techniques like Homeopathy and Acupuncture. I couldn't get the paper you referenced "Proceedings of the First International Symposium on Physical, Chemical and Biological Properties of Stable Water (IE) Clusters." from the top of the website (https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/ATG/lo.html). But I found some of his more recent works related to water under the following https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0375960109010330
It's interesting that he's spent the last 20 years basically researching into water for medical purposes. His more recent book from 2009 "Double Helix Water" I just ordered it from Amazon used in print. https://www.amazon.com/Double-200-year-old-mystery-homeopathy-solved/dp/0578042525/ It's unfortunate that they also seem to sell this "double helix water" online for $60 for 15ml and the reviews are very mixed. It almost detracts from the whole argument. I hope they are forthright enough to say how one would produce it easily and don't just claim some trade secret or overly complex production technique.
Slightly off topic, but I just keep running into the same thing again and again over and over again. It seems like people are gifted with some kind of spiritual ability to do something, they feel compelled to explain it with science, are when put to the test are proved they can't reproduce it to a critical audience and thus are "debunked". Then they resort to selling a mystery product which is largely relegated as a scam by the scientific community.
I even remember John saying that some reporter said David Hudson was selling mountain rock as ORMES.
I have no doubt that something they did worked, because people with this much experience and wisdom don't just make this stuff up. But I'm really starting to feel we may as a species need to acknowledge that consciousness cannot be separated from the experiment and effects when working with these subtle energies.
Anyways I'm really happy to know that gravity collapse and nuclear regeneration are not going to suffer the same fate and that the results should be reproducible irregardless of the observer.
What is a good time for you? I need to be conscious of the EU and US/South American participants, but we have interested parties from NZ and AU also.
The regular time you do videos is fine I think :) It works out around 6 AM - 7 AM Monday Japan time, before the rest of the family wakes up *hopefully*. Thanks for the consideration!
ok - got you, it will be on zoom, I will announce details on RV