Given the UK government wants to introduce electric arc furnaces for smelting / recovering scrap metal as part of “going green”, and given it is an Indian company that owns the steel making facility at Port Talbot this would seem to be a video that would be of interest to the relevant ministers, one of whom is my local MP, so I will once again endeavour to inform the UK government in the hope that, this time, they will listen. Try, try, try again and all that.
where, in this case, the term "shakedown" is referring to a period of testing or a trial journey undergone by a ship, aircraft or other engineered system before being declared operational.
One of those "reminds me of Star Trek" videos (the quartz cube is sitting on top of the light emitting window on top of the SunCell®)
The effectiveness of Solar panels falls off with the square of the distance, so you can either send a solar panel to the Sun ... or, you can bring the Sun to the Solar Panel - this is the SunCell® - and, as you may remember, I'm pretty sure the "hydrino" is a Cooper pair with proton wings - intensely magnetic, very stable (yet forms long chains), and is much-and-such an inside out H2 molecule where the electrons are much closer to the protons (or, rather, the protons much closer to the electrons - exactly as seen in the absorption lines of the hydrino. Further, if that cooper pair becomes a cluster, there can be both more attached protons and/or the distance bewteen protons and electrons reduced. So, yes, I believe the SunCell® IS an EVO system with liquid metallic electrodes and electron feed - one that avoids many issues as the electrodes, being liquid, are being continuously reformed and recirculated.
Obviously this is just one of many arc furnaces producing Ferro silicon. And that begs the question, why are other sites not reporting excess tonnage from their process? Has everyone been hiding the knowledge for 15 years?
In the paper, it states the the anomaly happened in 1995. It was not until 2016, following retirement, that the sadly departed Mahadaven Srinivasan, Former Deuterium and Palladium researcher at BARC (Indias nuclear research centre), made the information public at a poster at ICCF20.
It was never reported anywhere other than on the MFMP YouTube with a few hundred views.
People 'already know this is not possible' so, on the off-chance it happened elsewhere, it would always be chalked up as accounting errors in ones favour.
Makes sense, but pretty shortsighted, don’t you think? Don’t these people talk? I recognize fear of ridicule is a powerful motivator. Four tons per day of salable material was quite an accounting error!
Glad he got it off his chest, but wondering how many more “anomalies” are not being reported. Probably would be hard to get managers to share any type of windfall information relating to what is a very expensive process. Just asking the question would be tantamount to an audit of their operation.
I know of a serious top level LENR researcher in Japan who is afraid to share his most interesting stuff. Not because of commercial aspects, because of reputation.
Electric arc furnaces are also used for production of calcium carbide, ferroalloys, and other non-ferrous alloys, and for production of phosphorus. If meticulous records are kept of input and output of such processes, an interesting study might come of investigating any differences.
Back to GEET - have analyses been made of the the respective inputs and outputs of the GEET Reactor? Although there is not an electric arc per se, the reactor vortices are obviously affecting (ionizing) the fuels along the central rod.
Q - is the exhaust materially affected by the field produced in the GEET reactor, beyond the heat exchange occurring? Perhaps a similar “pinch” of the exhaust at some point along the central iron pipe analogous to that to be found in the fuel flow?
Thanks for sharing- this is great. The ability to remove CO2 absolutely KILLS the "get rid of ICE" argument.
1/4 less fuel in a very efficient generator is an incredible gain.
Moreover, the claimant is reporting moving to alternative fuels, and that is the point, households often throw away or excrete materials that could provide much of their household energy needs without ever having to use oil or gas.
He states that, just like I argue with reference to my ICCF-22 poster, the C is broken up into H, could be 6D or 3 Alpha, and 4 Alpha make up O2.
I think a standardised GEET on one of these off the shelf generators with a series of capillary take-offs for Cirrus II process gas mass spectrometry would settle the gas constituents at various places in the system.
It might be a good idea to bring this guy onboard.
In the meantime Dave Boutilier found a great link that specifies Paul's rod lengths for other fuel types and a lot of other details and some other theories, but was missing images, so I went to wayback machine, got a version with images and produced a pdf
Exciting emission results that any thinking person should not be able to ignore! I don’t think the results are so much ignored as they are shunned for financial reasons by the status quo.
I’m actually most interested in the relative ratios of elements in / elements out, indicating transformation of elements. What I’m seeing so far is ionization of molecules through the GEET reactor, resulting in a more efficient burn. Perhaps some carbon is going to oxygen? But only strict analysis will tell.
Hence why we need to get a GEET configured and then run it on our Cirrus II process gas mass analyser. Production of 4He, changes in isotope ratios etc would be a game changer.
Such is the magic of the electric arc! Magnetic fields apparently set up assembly line templates for construction of heavier elements under some (high pressure?) conditions, while under other conditions (low pressure or vacuum?) arcing can can reduce elemental nuclei to baser elements. All these reactions require first the plasma state of matter, provided by the arc, a magnetic field in itself, imposed on the materials externally.
This is the precise reason that in situ formation of heavy metals has been proposed as a result of lightning or earth-arcs ionizing otherwise common earth elements and compounds under the right, rare conditions. This remains to be proven, but the excess production of materials in this arc furnace is very suggestive of the possibilities! Electric Arc + Plasma in Magnetic Fields ---> Endo/exothermic nuclear Reactions and new templated elements (like-likes-like templates?).
Can you suggest some good reading or videos that would familiarize me with “turbulence induced charge separation leading to fractal toroidal moment leading to vacuum currents “?
No - after our proposal partners provided them with quantitative and qualitative data - NineSigma changed the RFP rules to state that they would only accept proposals that concentrated the tritium, not those that made it extinct.
And no, concentrating tritium in another atom is not what they mean.
I propose an interesting hypothetical experiment, which just focuses on the GEET reactor and bubbler minus the IC engine, to gain further insights into its pure operation including further efficiency gains.
By substituting the IC engine with a compressor feeding a standard auto catalytic converter (which could be in an insulated water bath or by using some basic flow calorimetery), the hot high pressure exhaust from the catalytic converter heater would then act as a continuous IC engine exhaust. With the inlet of the compressor thereby acting as the substitute vacuum suction IC engine intake.
One would then be measuring the excess thermal energy vs known inputs at high efficiency, especially without all the highly complex IC engine parameters to deal with on top. With the further addition of a solenoid valve to replicate the pressure pulses produced by an IC engine, if these pulses prove to be a vital part of the process, instead of using a continuous standard manual adjustable valve flow rate if that doesn't cut the mustard.
Plus such a low cost compact and relatively high COP multi air/ water/ fuel heating system as proposed, should be quite awesome for general purpose space and water heating in any situation, if all works out. Effectively creating a hybrid GEET central heating system boiler powered from what ever your locally available liquid waste resources.
I like the idea to use of a compressor for vacuum, I had a similar thought and was thinking a vacuum pump, I'm not sure how the air would be charged to achieve charge separation/sheer tho? An experiment like this removes the need to actually make an engine continuously run which may prove to be an extra level of complexity.
What if the unique shock wave collision-produced plasma within the GEET reactor was not actually coherent, due to no electrostatic or electromagnetic coherence fields being used to drive the process (as in other more coherent plasmoid based transmutation reactors). If so could the GEET reaction be more of an enhanced plasma or non coherent plasmoid based catalytic cracking process of some form. This in theory could also explain the lack of serious excess thermal energy produced in the GEET reactor, preventing the area of reactions in the tube from glowing red and then melting in a very short period of time like in previous BLP and other reactor examples.
Feb 9, 2023·edited Feb 9, 2023Liked by Bob Greenyer
Although this would not completely explain the dramatic increase of run times of the IC engines using the GEET reactor as it stands. So maybe there are not just non coherent and coherent plasma states, but a whole new family in between depending on the specific conditions of formation...each with its different effects and abilities... (eg GEET reactor, Pap engine and Shoulders EVOs etc, all using different types of these unique plasmoid states under very different setup configurations, but all still sharing common ground.
Bob, your idea of remediating rads is intriguing, and I think, easily testable. Simply run GEET fuel through an ICE with a relatively benign (or short half-life) isotope in solution, checking for rads in the exhaust. It may not be that simple, but I think it couldn’t hurt to try!
Given the UK government wants to introduce electric arc furnaces for smelting / recovering scrap metal as part of “going green”, and given it is an Indian company that owns the steel making facility at Port Talbot this would seem to be a video that would be of interest to the relevant ministers, one of whom is my local MP, so I will once again endeavour to inform the UK government in the hope that, this time, they will listen. Try, try, try again and all that.
Wonderful
Only way to guarantee failure is to give up.
Communicating with my MP - waiting on a response. In the meantime, I see:
https://brilliantlightpower.com/commercial-suncell-initial-shakedown/
where, in this case, the term "shakedown" is referring to a period of testing or a trial journey undergone by a ship, aircraft or other engineered system before being declared operational.
One of those "reminds me of Star Trek" videos (the quartz cube is sitting on top of the light emitting window on top of the SunCell®)
The effectiveness of Solar panels falls off with the square of the distance, so you can either send a solar panel to the Sun ... or, you can bring the Sun to the Solar Panel - this is the SunCell® - and, as you may remember, I'm pretty sure the "hydrino" is a Cooper pair with proton wings - intensely magnetic, very stable (yet forms long chains), and is much-and-such an inside out H2 molecule where the electrons are much closer to the protons (or, rather, the protons much closer to the electrons - exactly as seen in the absorption lines of the hydrino. Further, if that cooper pair becomes a cluster, there can be both more attached protons and/or the distance bewteen protons and electrons reduced. So, yes, I believe the SunCell® IS an EVO system with liquid metallic electrodes and electron feed - one that avoids many issues as the electrodes, being liquid, are being continuously reformed and recirculated.
Great.
I have SO MUCH to share right now, it is very difficult to know what to prioritise.
Obviously this is just one of many arc furnaces producing Ferro silicon. And that begs the question, why are other sites not reporting excess tonnage from their process? Has everyone been hiding the knowledge for 15 years?
Bob, your boldness is appreciated!
In the paper, it states the the anomaly happened in 1995. It was not until 2016, following retirement, that the sadly departed Mahadaven Srinivasan, Former Deuterium and Palladium researcher at BARC (Indias nuclear research centre), made the information public at a poster at ICCF20.
It was never reported anywhere other than on the MFMP YouTube with a few hundred views.
People 'already know this is not possible' so, on the off-chance it happened elsewhere, it would always be chalked up as accounting errors in ones favour.
Makes sense, but pretty shortsighted, don’t you think? Don’t these people talk? I recognize fear of ridicule is a powerful motivator. Four tons per day of salable material was quite an accounting error!
The plant owner didn't know who to turn to between 1995 and 2001.
Then Mahadevan admitted that he "didn't have the guts" for fear of being "shot down" until nearly the last moment (he died a few years later).
By the time Mahadevan talked, the foundry had long been shuttered.
Glad he got it off his chest, but wondering how many more “anomalies” are not being reported. Probably would be hard to get managers to share any type of windfall information relating to what is a very expensive process. Just asking the question would be tantamount to an audit of their operation.
I know of a serious top level LENR researcher in Japan who is afraid to share his most interesting stuff. Not because of commercial aspects, because of reputation.
Sounds like you may be holding out on us, too, to honor his wishes
Electric arc furnaces are also used for production of calcium carbide, ferroalloys, and other non-ferrous alloys, and for production of phosphorus. If meticulous records are kept of input and output of such processes, an interesting study might come of investigating any differences.
Back to GEET - have analyses been made of the the respective inputs and outputs of the GEET Reactor? Although there is not an electric arc per se, the reactor vortices are obviously affecting (ionizing) the fuels along the central rod.
Q - is the exhaust materially affected by the field produced in the GEET reactor, beyond the heat exchange occurring? Perhaps a similar “pinch” of the exhaust at some point along the central iron pipe analogous to that to be found in the fuel flow?
This is probably not exactly what you are looking for,
but one public analysis/comparison I came accross is here:
http://geetlife.weebly.com/gx160-comparison.html
1/4 less fuel.
99 % less CO2
96 - 99 % less CO
90 -98 % less HC
Oxygen equivalent to normal AIR.
Thanks for sharing- this is great. The ability to remove CO2 absolutely KILLS the "get rid of ICE" argument.
1/4 less fuel in a very efficient generator is an incredible gain.
Moreover, the claimant is reporting moving to alternative fuels, and that is the point, households often throw away or excrete materials that could provide much of their household energy needs without ever having to use oil or gas.
Here is an interview with the guy,
https://youtu.be/l6_fsAtVlqQ
He states that, just like I argue with reference to my ICCF-22 poster, the C is broken up into H, could be 6D or 3 Alpha, and 4 Alpha make up O2.
I think a standardised GEET on one of these off the shelf generators with a series of capillary take-offs for Cirrus II process gas mass spectrometry would settle the gas constituents at various places in the system.
It might be a good idea to bring this guy onboard.
He published a mail adress below his video on YT two years ago
Thanks, will send there also
In the meantime Dave Boutilier found a great link that specifies Paul's rod lengths for other fuel types and a lot of other details and some other theories, but was missing images, so I went to wayback machine, got a version with images and produced a pdf
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18eS8O-u54TdIQnMRYDCZN-y3R0fTeVgj/view?usp=share_link
Exciting emission results that any thinking person should not be able to ignore! I don’t think the results are so much ignored as they are shunned for financial reasons by the status quo.
I’m actually most interested in the relative ratios of elements in / elements out, indicating transformation of elements. What I’m seeing so far is ionization of molecules through the GEET reactor, resulting in a more efficient burn. Perhaps some carbon is going to oxygen? But only strict analysis will tell.
Hence why we need to get a GEET configured and then run it on our Cirrus II process gas mass analyser. Production of 4He, changes in isotope ratios etc would be a game changer.
Such is the magic of the electric arc! Magnetic fields apparently set up assembly line templates for construction of heavier elements under some (high pressure?) conditions, while under other conditions (low pressure or vacuum?) arcing can can reduce elemental nuclei to baser elements. All these reactions require first the plasma state of matter, provided by the arc, a magnetic field in itself, imposed on the materials externally.
This is the precise reason that in situ formation of heavy metals has been proposed as a result of lightning or earth-arcs ionizing otherwise common earth elements and compounds under the right, rare conditions. This remains to be proven, but the excess production of materials in this arc furnace is very suggestive of the possibilities! Electric Arc + Plasma in Magnetic Fields ---> Endo/exothermic nuclear Reactions and new templated elements (like-likes-like templates?).
Not just plasma, turbulence induced charge separation leading to fractal toroidal moment leading to vacuum currents.
I realize my oversimplification, Bob, but I’ve not yet learned all the mechanics.
Can you suggest some good reading or videos that would familiarize me with “turbulence induced charge separation leading to fractal toroidal moment leading to vacuum currents “?
Look at the link on slide seven for turbulence induced charge separation,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14gBTzv4LbPOB2rFaMOlxfpdozfKJ9T2o/view
also slide 5.
Then
https://remoteview.substack.com/p/fractal-toroidal-moment-induced-transformation
in context with
https://remoteview.substack.com/p/o-day-at-the-tip-of-the-pyramid
Thanks for this
Can the Fukushima Tritium waste be of use here?
I think you got my point.
No - after our proposal partners provided them with quantitative and qualitative data - NineSigma changed the RFP rules to state that they would only accept proposals that concentrated the tritium, not those that made it extinct.
And no, concentrating tritium in another atom is not what they mean.
I propose an interesting hypothetical experiment, which just focuses on the GEET reactor and bubbler minus the IC engine, to gain further insights into its pure operation including further efficiency gains.
By substituting the IC engine with a compressor feeding a standard auto catalytic converter (which could be in an insulated water bath or by using some basic flow calorimetery), the hot high pressure exhaust from the catalytic converter heater would then act as a continuous IC engine exhaust. With the inlet of the compressor thereby acting as the substitute vacuum suction IC engine intake.
One would then be measuring the excess thermal energy vs known inputs at high efficiency, especially without all the highly complex IC engine parameters to deal with on top. With the further addition of a solenoid valve to replicate the pressure pulses produced by an IC engine, if these pulses prove to be a vital part of the process, instead of using a continuous standard manual adjustable valve flow rate if that doesn't cut the mustard.
Plus such a low cost compact and relatively high COP multi air/ water/ fuel heating system as proposed, should be quite awesome for general purpose space and water heating in any situation, if all works out. Effectively creating a hybrid GEET central heating system boiler powered from what ever your locally available liquid waste resources.
I like the idea to use of a compressor for vacuum, I had a similar thought and was thinking a vacuum pump, I'm not sure how the air would be charged to achieve charge separation/sheer tho? An experiment like this removes the need to actually make an engine continuously run which may prove to be an extra level of complexity.
What if the unique shock wave collision-produced plasma within the GEET reactor was not actually coherent, due to no electrostatic or electromagnetic coherence fields being used to drive the process (as in other more coherent plasmoid based transmutation reactors). If so could the GEET reaction be more of an enhanced plasma or non coherent plasmoid based catalytic cracking process of some form. This in theory could also explain the lack of serious excess thermal energy produced in the GEET reactor, preventing the area of reactions in the tube from glowing red and then melting in a very short period of time like in previous BLP and other reactor examples.
Although this would not completely explain the dramatic increase of run times of the IC engines using the GEET reactor as it stands. So maybe there are not just non coherent and coherent plasma states, but a whole new family in between depending on the specific conditions of formation...each with its different effects and abilities... (eg GEET reactor, Pap engine and Shoulders EVOs etc, all using different types of these unique plasmoid states under very different setup configurations, but all still sharing common ground.
The main difference comes when you add Carbon.
Bob, your idea of remediating rads is intriguing, and I think, easily testable. Simply run GEET fuel through an ICE with a relatively benign (or short half-life) isotope in solution, checking for rads in the exhaust. It may not be that simple, but I think it couldn’t hurt to try!
Yes.