The use of an AI tool worries me as, is by now well documented, AI has a tendency to re-enforce prejudices, but those using output from questions posed to AI systems often fail to take this into account. In fact, in the video, I already picked up on the "quantity over quality" trap. Reading thousands of papers can often lead to groupthink taking over from critical thought. As Bob mentioned in his recent (excellent!) discussion onn the Grimerica podcast, approaching a subject with an open mind and first observing what actually happens "in nature" (idiosynchrocies and all) should then be an attempt made to study and evaluate prior art and writings against what we have observed via experimentation - there should be no place for extrapolation / interpolation or being constrained by existing beliefs or theories or groupthink as new evidence comes to light.
The tool developed by a community member is very helpful for checking what I and others in the LENR community have already said without the AI summary. The NYU one, if it answers at all, opens with a recognition of the question, then some fluff and then closes with an offer to answer more questions. Not impressive.
Starting with reality and moving to prior interpretations observations is far better than a theory salad.
And of course another issue with AI LLM is that they feedback back on themselves as more and more people use them, eventually those ideas go back into the LLM reinforcing groupthink even more. This is known as the "self-licking lollipop" model of knowledge: in this case the lollipop keeps absorbing even more averaged out ideas as it gets licked. And universities love this type of thing as it keeps everyone busy and generates yet more "data" for publications.
MFMP LENER bot provides better data than the NYU LENER chatbot regardless the volumes of papers on this subject, the majority are from 1999, well over 25 years of suppression
I have had over 15 posts on scientific research from journals as well as Wikipedia on various topics suppressed and removed on tictok- all considered content violations
Sad that you have had your output suppressed, there are ways though the censorship though, but not on the main platforms. Linking from a main platform to another that is not censored appears to work most of the time.
Okay, I can see you easily take this even more seriously than I can. My thanks Tammy. But I am also giving this more attention than any other field I have entered into. I was always bummed out by the "Big Boy Science Club" that seemed to "know it all." I had doubts. I read Dostoyevsky just to get through 11th grade. I think we may be Indigo Adults. Freedom is a fearsome thing to find, over and over again, I may say. I know about Infinite Fields of Infinite Possibilities via color as in paint. So we not only wallow in them, we exude as choice this most certain and delicious nectar: Insight and Understanding. We arrive with agency via a communion. We start on our path as Agents-in-Communion. Seeing the Realm as a "better place". Peace Cheers Onward
Corky, I have always been a skater. I’ve never had to apply myself in anyway, shape or form.
I’ve always had a memory that retained everything, readily available to replay in my mind at a whim… I could even recall the smell of the moment. I didn’t know this was unusual.
This changed after my accident. I knew and could visualize as before now it was more of a painful struggle to pull out what I knew was in my mind. My recall is not available when I want it to be however, it is most often there at some point later in time (formulas, chemistry, and numbers aren’t so available nor as accurate) I see it, but I cannot reach it. I know it is there though it alludes my ability of expressing it
I always thought everyone had this skill set.
Most of my focus was on being a mom and enjoying my family life
Now I’ve got grandchildren to worry about. I can’t skate through the scenarios that are potentially playing out at current. Otherwise, they might be forced to live in the world of serfdom, sterility, and inability to enjoy the world that they have been born in to
I worked in chemical coatings and specialized in colors… I relate to your lovely thoughts on infinitely many fields of possibilities as in colors, the world has always been a rainbow of color choices beyond tangibility of just one.
I think our energetic light goes on forever, I believe there is a great creator but like history, most has been hidden and manipulated in order to control and limit us from accessing our true potential
What hasn’t been destroyed is probably hidden in the bowels of the Vatican
Before my accident I felt very close to our great creator… Infinite possibilities is lovely
He keeps saying "Takahashi." Does he mean Dr. Matsumoto? If so, I'm having some extreme cognitive dissonance with this guy. I sense that I literally understand this field better than many of the grads there. Rather frustrating, Bob. He should note Simeon Hein's LENR timeline.
I had the same feeling - it felt more like an attempt to take over and control the narrative rather than reaching out to work together with others on sharing experimental results and working on a shared understanding.
It looks like the last fusion hydrogen bombs ever tested in atmospheric explosions were based on LENR reactions for the primary. This means that while they were immensely powerful they were non-radioactive.
This means that everyone in the worlds military will potentially believe that a nuke war can be fought and won. I’m not sure if this is even more terrifying than the thought of nukes as commonly understood.
If the elite think that a nuke war will leave the planet desirably underpopulated but non radioactive then they may calculate that they only need to survive the initial explosions and the nuclear winter to be able to reset everything to their liking. The human population that survives will be their slaves and they will have godlike power over the whole earth.
I don’t think there will be a nuke war, they love the power of holding such threats over the lesser educated persons head
They have no need because as we know they have god’s toolbox 🧰 burning it down, only causes it to grow back better without all the evasive fauna
Kind of like their "jumping species in real time" narrative, basic science tells us this can only be done through transcription and transferees techniques incorporating ai and 3d printing technologies even genetics and virology is chemistry
Is lenr Mainstreaming ?
There are now people at universities in US, EU, India, Russia, China, Taiwan and Japan doing PhDs on it.
The use of an AI tool worries me as, is by now well documented, AI has a tendency to re-enforce prejudices, but those using output from questions posed to AI systems often fail to take this into account. In fact, in the video, I already picked up on the "quantity over quality" trap. Reading thousands of papers can often lead to groupthink taking over from critical thought. As Bob mentioned in his recent (excellent!) discussion onn the Grimerica podcast, approaching a subject with an open mind and first observing what actually happens "in nature" (idiosynchrocies and all) should then be an attempt made to study and evaluate prior art and writings against what we have observed via experimentation - there should be no place for extrapolation / interpolation or being constrained by existing beliefs or theories or groupthink as new evidence comes to light.
I agree entirely.
The tool developed by a community member is very helpful for checking what I and others in the LENR community have already said without the AI summary. The NYU one, if it answers at all, opens with a recognition of the question, then some fluff and then closes with an offer to answer more questions. Not impressive.
Starting with reality and moving to prior interpretations observations is far better than a theory salad.
And of course another issue with AI LLM is that they feedback back on themselves as more and more people use them, eventually those ideas go back into the LLM reinforcing groupthink even more. This is known as the "self-licking lollipop" model of knowledge: in this case the lollipop keeps absorbing even more averaged out ideas as it gets licked. And universities love this type of thing as it keeps everyone busy and generates yet more "data" for publications.
Atta boy, Bob. Help them along, as you do. Kudos.
I look forward to them augmenting our community efforts more so that the field can accelerate as it becomes more main stream.
That is my goal, informing those who are still under the veil of indoctrination
MFMP LENER bot provides better data than the NYU LENER chatbot regardless the volumes of papers on this subject, the majority are from 1999, well over 25 years of suppression
I have had over 15 posts on scientific research from journals as well as Wikipedia on various topics suppressed and removed on tictok- all considered content violations
Sad that you have had your output suppressed, there are ways though the censorship though, but not on the main platforms. Linking from a main platform to another that is not censored appears to work most of the time.
Okay, I can see you easily take this even more seriously than I can. My thanks Tammy. But I am also giving this more attention than any other field I have entered into. I was always bummed out by the "Big Boy Science Club" that seemed to "know it all." I had doubts. I read Dostoyevsky just to get through 11th grade. I think we may be Indigo Adults. Freedom is a fearsome thing to find, over and over again, I may say. I know about Infinite Fields of Infinite Possibilities via color as in paint. So we not only wallow in them, we exude as choice this most certain and delicious nectar: Insight and Understanding. We arrive with agency via a communion. We start on our path as Agents-in-Communion. Seeing the Realm as a "better place". Peace Cheers Onward
Corky, I have always been a skater. I’ve never had to apply myself in anyway, shape or form.
I’ve always had a memory that retained everything, readily available to replay in my mind at a whim… I could even recall the smell of the moment. I didn’t know this was unusual.
This changed after my accident. I knew and could visualize as before now it was more of a painful struggle to pull out what I knew was in my mind. My recall is not available when I want it to be however, it is most often there at some point later in time (formulas, chemistry, and numbers aren’t so available nor as accurate) I see it, but I cannot reach it. I know it is there though it alludes my ability of expressing it
I always thought everyone had this skill set.
Most of my focus was on being a mom and enjoying my family life
Now I’ve got grandchildren to worry about. I can’t skate through the scenarios that are potentially playing out at current. Otherwise, they might be forced to live in the world of serfdom, sterility, and inability to enjoy the world that they have been born in to
I worked in chemical coatings and specialized in colors… I relate to your lovely thoughts on infinitely many fields of possibilities as in colors, the world has always been a rainbow of color choices beyond tangibility of just one.
I think our energetic light goes on forever, I believe there is a great creator but like history, most has been hidden and manipulated in order to control and limit us from accessing our true potential
What hasn’t been destroyed is probably hidden in the bowels of the Vatican
Before my accident I felt very close to our great creator… Infinite possibilities is lovely
Peace cheers onward
Can u send me the link to mfmp bot?
Bob posted the link on his last upload along with the NYU bot link as well as 2 other links’s
I will try to paste it here if it will allow me to (I’m not tech savvy like I once was 😳)
http://lenrbot.com/chatbot.html
It’s not working.
Works here, except, sometimes it just does not answer a query
Hmm I’ll try when I get home on my desktop. But I’m getting this error message: “Failed to connect with server. Please try again later”
https://lenrdashboard.com/
This link brings up research papers whereas the NYU bot is claiming incapable of connecting to the servers
He keeps saying "Takahashi." Does he mean Dr. Matsumoto? If so, I'm having some extreme cognitive dissonance with this guy. I sense that I literally understand this field better than many of the grads there. Rather frustrating, Bob. He should note Simeon Hein's LENR timeline.
I had the same feeling - it felt more like an attempt to take over and control the narrative rather than reaching out to work together with others on sharing experimental results and working on a shared understanding.
I always learn new theories and ideas from you Corky, thanks for making this so interesting!
It looks like the last fusion hydrogen bombs ever tested in atmospheric explosions were based on LENR reactions for the primary. This means that while they were immensely powerful they were non-radioactive.
This means that everyone in the worlds military will potentially believe that a nuke war can be fought and won. I’m not sure if this is even more terrifying than the thought of nukes as commonly understood.
If the elite think that a nuke war will leave the planet desirably underpopulated but non radioactive then they may calculate that they only need to survive the initial explosions and the nuclear winter to be able to reset everything to their liking. The human population that survives will be their slaves and they will have godlike power over the whole earth.
https://youtu.be/b2946lpLuBM?si=Stvq6cC2C-286-SW
I don’t think there will be a nuke war, they love the power of holding such threats over the lesser educated persons head
They have no need because as we know they have god’s toolbox 🧰 burning it down, only causes it to grow back better without all the evasive fauna
Kind of like their "jumping species in real time" narrative, basic science tells us this can only be done through transcription and transferees techniques incorporating ai and 3d printing technologies even genetics and virology is chemistry
I really liked this talk. This has been my only exposure to David Nagel, but I'm very fond of him after this hour.